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 Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas

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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas   Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 EmptyDim 29 Juin 2014 - 13:01

Well, I think Niels is right : this system looks very much like a disconnecting device for the celesta. Kind of a clutch.
Not sure it's original (the hinges look a bit new to me, as far as I can see), but that would make sense anyway.
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas   Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 EmptyDim 29 Juin 2014 - 14:08

The system is clearly to disconnect the celesta, I don't think I'm making any misinterpretations. But as Frans pointed out correctly this device
was only standard present in harmonium-celesta's with roll player: the grand concertal (Mustel) & Scheola models with celesta (Schiedmayer).
So probably it's not original in my instrument.

Still the mechanism makes sense too on regular harmonium-celesta's: playing harmonium solo on the higher manual, close to the stopknobs.

The grand concertal has indeed 2 stopknobs for this, but as it's celesta appears to have only 4 octaves, the left one will probably only work for c - e (17 notes).
C-H doesn't couple to the lower manual when a 5 octave celesta is present, which used to be the case in my instrument.


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List of the dominators and Scheolas updated from 25 to 37:
37 instrument to tell history.

Scheola's with celesta ( 9 ) :

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Nieuwe10

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Harmon10

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Dsc00614

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Scheol12

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Scheol14

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 00001611

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Scheol13

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Naamlo10

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Scheol15

Scheolas with celesta, ...but temporarily without celesta, pictures taken before celesta was added on top ( 2 ):
notice that the first one is possibly the same instrument as the one pictured above...

The second instrument is lacking many registers although it has a very costly roll player and a celesta, perhaps built for someone who really loved the celesta and player system and
cared less about the harmonium itself.

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Harmon11

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Schied12

Dominators with celesta ( 11 ) :

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Dsc00611

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Dsc00613

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Fra51310

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Wagner10

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Schied10

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Schied11

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Dh10

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Img_0010

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Img_1010

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 00001610

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 _85_410

Scheolas without celesta ( 2 ) :

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Dsc00615

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Scheol12

Scheola's with missing Scheola part ( 3 ) :


Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Rfg-4610

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Rfg-6210

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Dsc00811

Dominators without celesta ( 10 ) :

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Dsc00710

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Dsc00711

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Dsc00713

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Naafml10

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 00001711

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Naamlo11

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Nieuwe10

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 11_17510

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 Schied11

Schiedmayer Dominators and Scheolas - Page 2 P1010010
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