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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Mer 18 Juil 2012 - 14:47

English:
Very beautiful, Nils !
Very good played !
I love those ones. I am not sure if you know that there's a version for piano & harmonium duet of this opus.
I'd be very curious for additional information about those versions.
I am going to play these versions in my recital in November, but I will play on my 1884 Shoninger, not yet on my Mustel.

Français:
Très belle, Nils!
Très bon joué!
J'aime ceux-là. Je ne sais pas si vous savez qu'il ya une version pour piano & harmonium duo de cet opus.
Je serais très curieux pour des informations supplémentaires sur ces versions.
Je vais jouer à ces versions dans mon récit en Novembre, mais je vais jouer sur mon 1884 Shoninger, pas encore sur mon Mustel.
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Jeu 19 Juil 2012 - 10:38

Thank you for the nice comments, they are very much appreciated!

Yesterday evening I realised I recently received a digital copy of A. Mustel's "Vespers", the first "Improvisation Symphonique" from his opus 8.

Next to the fact that it is incredible beautiful, this piece is also very useful as a study for A) playing big chords with expres​sion(although "E" isn't mentioned in the score..),
B) making contrasting dynamic changes by use of the double expression and C) playing chords legato with many finger-alterations.

Enjoy! Smile



I have again included the full registration list for those who may benefit from it:

0:00 Prol. Méta 4 - E - 8 0
1:38 Prol. Méta 4 - E - 5 8 0
1:49 Prol. Méta 4 - E - 5 6 8 0
2:06 Prol. Méta 4 - E - 5 6 7 8 (9*) 0
2:50 Prol. Méta 4 - E - 5 6 7 8 0 +Celesta
3:17 Prol. Méta 4 - E - 5 6 7 8 (9*) 0
3:37 Prol. Méta 4 - E - 5 6 8 0
3:41 Prol. Méta 4 - E - 5 8 0
3:45 Prol. Méta 4 - E - 8 0

*The 9 Vox angelica is the tremolo-tuned version of the 5 Musette, I just had to include it as it is very clear Mustel favores the "registres ondulants" in this piece. (double reed registers)
This way 5 16'foot-reeds are sounding at the same time. There could have even been 6 of them, but the clarinette is never called for. In a likewise manner I could have replaced the musette
by the vox angelica, but this way the tremolo-tuned sound(effect) is featured to soon in the work. (The combinatory colour "5+9" is also more transparent sounding compared to 2+6.)

The scores by Alphonse Mustel are extremely rare and therefor difficult to find, wich is a bit frustrating since he's the most important composer for harmonium-celesta.
So, please help me to collect them. I will put a recording on the forum of each work I receive! Smile

Les partitions d'Alphonse Mustel sont extrêmement rares et difficiles à trouver, qui est un peu frustrant car il est le compositeur le plus important pour l'orgue-celesta.
Alors, s'il vous plaît aidez-moi à les recueillir. Je mettrai un enregistrement sur le forum de chaque piece que je reçois!
Smile

Best,
Nils

(I noticed that I exported my previous clip (Karg-Elert: Rêverie) in 16:9 instead of 4:3, I will restore it very soon and upload it again.)
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Jeu 19 Juil 2012 - 15:22

ENGLISH:
Superb rendition, Nils !! It's so nice that you are carrying these frequent recordings ahead. Both your playing and musical comprehension is absolutely flawless. Thanks for posting ! cheers

FRANÇAIS:
Superbe interprétation, Nils! C'est tellement agréable que vous portez ces enregistrements fréquents avance. Votre jeu et aussi votre compréhension musicale est absolument impeccable. Merci de poster ces vidéos! cheers

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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Jeu 19 Juil 2012 - 17:28

I received Alphonse Mustel's "Largo opus 18"..so here it is Smile enjoy!
If you own other scores by Alphonse Mustel, please don't keep them for yourself as this is anti-promotion for the revival of the instrument.
These scores have to be played again, like Mustel himself surely would have wanted.



registration list:

0:00 Méta 0 5 4 3 2 1 - E - 5 6 0
1:50 Méta 0 4 3 2 1 - E - 5 8 0
2:41 Méta 0 4 3 2 1 - E - 5 8 0 +Celesta
3:40 Méta 0 5 4 3 2 1 - E - 5 6 8 0
5:16 Prol. Méta 0 5 4 3 2 1 - E - 5 6 8 0

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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Sam 21 Juil 2012 - 22:41

Thanks to Frans Van der Grijn from www.harmoniumnet.nl I recently received a copy of Paul Schmidt's 3 volume "Universalschule für Harmonium" (1912).


These 3 books were made with the Schiedmayer Dominator series in mind, but contain detailed descriptions (in the scores too!) for All harmonium-systems including:

-Art harmonium with extra Schiedmayer-registers + celesta ( 7 6 6* 5 5** 4 3 2 2* 1 - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ) <= double expression
-Art harmonium + celesta ( 5 4 3 2 1 - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ) <= double expression
-Art harmonium with extra Schiedmayer-registers <= double expression
-Art harmonium <= double expression
-New*** pressure harmonium ( 2** 1 4 5 - 1 2 4 5 6 8 ) <= double expression
-Old**** pressure harmonium ( 4 3 2 1 - 1 2 3 4 C)
-Normalharmonium (suction harmonium)

* only lowest octave
** only tenor register (=bas part minus lowest octave)
*** as introduced by Schiedmayer in the smaller Dominator models, catalogues available through harmoniumnet.nl
**** the classical 4,5-jeux

The total of almost 400 pages makes this one of the biggest and most detailed works ever written about the instrument.


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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Dim 22 Juil 2012 - 2:39

ENGLISH:
Very informative, Nils ! Keep on sharing your discoveries about your Schiedmayer Harmonium-Célesta !
I think our colleague HarpeEolienne in this forum has a Scheola harmonium.
I am eager to watch more videos of yours ! Very Happy
All the best,
Dib

FRANÇAIS:
Très instructif, Nils! Continuez à partager vos découvertes à propos de votre Schiedmayer Harmonium-Célesta!
Je pense que notre collègue HarpeEolienne dans ce forum a un harmonium Scheola.
Je suis impatient de voir d'autres vidéos de la vôtre! Very Happy
Tout le meilleur,
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Dim 22 Juil 2012 - 10:18

The score of "Vespers" is now available through imslp:

(UPDATED) http://imslp.org/wiki/3_Improvisations_symphoniques,_Op.8_%28Mustel,_Alphonse%29
scroll upwards on this forumpage for a recording.


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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Ven 27 Juil 2012 - 16:10

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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Mar 14 Aoû 2012 - 11:06

Bonjour à tout le monde,

J'ai fait quelques nouvelles enregistrations sur le Schiedmayer. J'ai choisi quelques pieces de l'opus 76 de Karg-Elert: Intarsien.
Amusez-vous! Smile

Romantischer Zwiegesang op. 76 nr. 9


0:00 0 3 - E - 5 6 9 0
1:06 0 5 3 - E - 5 6 9 0
1:24 0 3 - E - 5 6 9 0
2:00 0 3 - E - 2 0
2:26 0 5 3 - E - 2 0


Letzter Gang op. 76 nr. 10


0:00 0 4 - E -
0:38 0 3 - E -
1:14 0 4 3 - E -
1:50 0 4 - E -
1:59 Méta 0 5 4 - E -


Bergmelodie op. 76 nr. 11


0:00 Méta 5 4 - E - 4 0


Grosser Chor op. 76 nr. 13


0:00 G


Illusion op. 76 nr. 14


0:00 0 3 - E - 8
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Mar 14 Aoû 2012 - 11:43

Cumpliments for the new videos, Nils ! Very beautiful and very expressive Very Happy
I was already missing some movement here in the forum...nobody posted anything in the last week scratch
Let's wish for new daily messages to bring happiness to our day.
All the best,
Dib

Félicitations pour vos nouvelles vidéos, Nils!
Très beau et très expressif Very Happy
Me manquait déjà un certain mouvement ici dans le forum. Pour plus d'un semaine a personne rien posté ici scratch
Souhaitons nouveaux messages quotidiens à apporter le bonheur à nos jours.
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Mar 14 Aoû 2012 - 20:50

Merci beaucoup Dib! Smile quelles nouvelles de votre Mustel? Smile
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Mer 15 Aoû 2012 - 1:32

It's already a month since the last time I spoke with Louis, and the restoration was progressing at a good pace Smile

Il ya déjà un mois depuis la dernière fois que j'ai parlé avec Louis, et la restauration progresse à un bon rythme Smile
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Ven 17 Aoû 2012 - 17:53

SCHIEDMAYER DOMINATOR / SCHEOLA DISCOVERY LIST

Bonjour à tout le monde,

je m'excuse pour tout les messages en anglais, j'éspère de les traduire très rapidement.
For now, I will continue in english.

Some weeks ago people on the forum got the idea to start listing all remaining Mustels. This idea made me try to do the same thing for the
Schiedmayer dominators and scheolas.

For the moment I have collected pictures and information of about 25 instruments. What stroke me is the fact that not a single instrument is identical to another!!!
Almost each instruments differs somehow from what is written in the catalogues. That's why I would like to share my discoveries in this post with those who are interested.

To clear things up before we start:
Schiedmayer produced many different dominators (=harmonium or harmonium-celesta) and scheolas (= harmonium or harmonium-celesta + roll player)
All models have names derived from famous composers Smile All models are kunstharmoniums in the way that they have fortes expressifs, fortes fixes, metaphones, prolongements and double expression.

you have the harmoniums, from small to big:

model Gounod: 6 4 2 1 1p - 1p 1 2 4 8
model Bizet: 6 5 4 2 1 1p - 1p 1 2 4 5 6
model Verdi: 6 5 4 3 2 1 1p - 1p 1 2 3 4 5 6 8
model Rossini: 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 1p - 1p 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

you have the harmoniums with roll-player:

model 1* (=Bizet): 6 5 4 2 1 1p - 1p 1 2 4 5 6
model 2* (=Verdi): 6 5 4 3 2 1 1p - 1p 1 2 3 4 5 6 8
model 3* (=Rossini): 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 1p - 1p 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

*these models are also called model "Brahms"

you have the harmonium-celesta's

model Wagner: 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 1p - 1p 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
model Strauss: 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 1p - 1p 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 <= this model has 69 keys, A to F

and finally the harmonium-celesta's with roll-player Mustel made only one of these called "Grand Concertal"

model Palestrina 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 1p - 1p 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

So here are my discoveries Smile

Discovery 1: Some instruments have additional prolongements. these 2 extra prolongements at the right of the keyboard operate the tenor register c-e and the complete treble side f-c.

As there is no place for additional heel-levers to release these prolongements, big push-buttons are found in front of the keyboard to release them:


Discovery 2: On the older instruments you see the name tag : "Meister Harmonium" instead of Dominator (see picture above)

Discovery 3: Some instruments have a scrambled order of registernumbers, sometimes only on one side, other times on both sides.
These is meant to facilitate the drawing of common combinations. examples: 3+7, 1+4, 5+6
The next picture shows a scheola model Palestrina, notice the order 3 6 8 5 4 7 2 1 1p - 1p 8 4 1 5 6 9 2 7 3 (instead of 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 1p - 1p 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)


Discovery 4: Some model Wagners have the 8th register in the bass (Undamaris 8') which is normally only found on the bigger model Strauss. Notice that all models Palestrina have this register too although they have only 61 keys like the model Wagner.

Both Wagner, Wagner with 8 undamaris and Palestrina (which has the 8 undamaris too) have the same amount of reeds!!! read the next discovery to find how this is possible.


Discovery 5: Most Palestrina's and Wagners-WITH-this-register-8-in-the-bass seem to have a limited version of register 6 (violon 16') working only for 1 octave!!!

first some explaning:

The Schiedmayer dominators and scheolas have special switches for the registers 2, 5 and 6 in the bass. These switches are normally located right above these registers and let the register only sound in a part of the bass side.
You don't have to pull the normal stop knob, you can just press these little switches down and the register in question will sound in the dedicated range.
with kind permission of harmoniumnet.nl:


This all is to have for example the heavy bass sound of the 16 foot stops (nr. 2 and nr. 6) only in the lowest octave, as they might sound muddy in a musical context when played higher,
Another example: you can now exclude the very high sounding 2 foot stop (nr. 5) in the lowest octave where the bass-sound might be disturbed by this high sounding register.

BUT!! have a look again at the picture of "discovery 3":


the 6 violon 16' is located left of the switch (instead of below it) and there's no way to have this register in normal mode as it's porcelain is just glued to the wood of the backplate
instead of on a stopknob. You can only activate it with the switch "C to H" which makes it only sound in the lowest octave.

Another example (which is even more strange) is this instrument (a Wagner WITH register 8 ):


..this time the registers are not completely scrambled, their order is logical from 1 to 5, but at the end 6-8 thing get weird again..
..the register 7 is glued to the wood, what is going on??? Smile

Well, take look at register 6, unlike the previous example it now has a normal stopknob but there is the indication C-H, so again it works only in the lowest octave.

register 7 should have had a normal stopknob but somehow they used one of the smaller switches for this register...it looks very strange..
Normally the model Wagner has no register 8 in the bass, it seems like Schiedmayer did it's best to include it without using new stop knobs... Smile

Each instrument with this smaller nr. 6 does also have a smaller nr. 8 because these reeds are located in the same chamber:



!!! Therefor the wagners, wagners with undamaris, and Palestrina's ALL have the same amount of reeds!!! 616
The Wagner has a complete rank of nr. 6 in the bass. The Wagner with undamaris and the Palestrina have the 6 in the lowest octave, and the 8 in the 1 1/2 octave above this lowest octave.

...a very rare EXCEPTION is this instrument, a model Wagner but with a 4th switch for register nr. 7, this harmonium has 645 reeds:


next to this exception, ONLY the model Strauss seems to have a complete nr. 6 and nr. 8 wich gives a total of 732 reeds! (due to the 69 keys)
Notice that the celesta in this instrument has a range of 5 3/4 octaves! just like the big orchestral celestas they make today.



Discovery 6: Some instruments have double forte's which are both operated by the forte expressif:

It looks like it is found on the earlier models, but I'm not sure if this is a correct presumption.

Discovery 7: The registers 4 and 7 in the bass have often different names.

On the earlier instruments (around 1910-1915) you see:

4: Horn
7: Basson

On the later models you see:

4: Basson
7: Violoncello or Cello

Mind that "Basson" is used for both registers!

In his "Universalschule für Harmonium" Paul Schmidt always refers to register 7 as "4b". These two 8 foot stop have a likewise soundquality.
Thoughout his 3 volume book he speaks of 4a and 4b. Notice that these 2 registers are located next to each other on instruments with scrambled registernumbers!
You can see this on the model Palestrina in "discovery 3 & 5"

Discovery 8:
On some instruments you find a porcelain with the model's name. I don't think it was to be found on later models


Discovery 9:

On some Palestrina's the celesta seems to be located behind the roll mechanism, instead of above it. This way the instrument can be made a whole
lot lower: 1m80 instead of 2m80.
Here's a picture of an example:

this instrument has 2 manuals so it clearly has the celesta.

There were many different cases for these scheola's and they all had names like "Parsifal", "Tristan" and "Amforias", all of these names seemed to be related to Wagner's opera's.
The model Palestrina is in fact a model Wagner with a roll-player Smile

So far, I have never seen or heard of a model Strauss (69 keys) + roll-player.

Discovery 10: On some instruments the little porcelain next to the small switches says "c-h" instead of "C-H".
It's a very small difference but I did notice it Smile for an example of this porcelain in capital letters suggesting the right octave position see pictures above.
Here's a picture showing small letters (not original?)


Discovery 11: There were 2 models of the right heel:

model 1 is just the same heel lever as the other 2

model 2 differs from the other heel lever:


Discovery 12: changes concerning the porcelains for the heel levers:

on some instruments there are no porcelains for the heel-levers, this seems to be original as they are also featured in the catalogues.

On the instrument with the porcelains you can find this very small difference:



It's hardly noticeable, but it's there Smile

Discovery 13: Some instruments have the option "doppeltastendruck". This option makes the keys velocity-sensible: if you press the keys softly only the registers
lying in the back will sound = sharp sounding registers. If you press the keys all the way down all registers will sound (also the warm sounding registers in the front)

Actually this feature is in some degree present on all harmoniums.

Discovery 14: on some instruments (later instruments) the 1p only activates the percussion mechanism, if you want to hear the 1 as well you have to pull the 1 Smile
There's a good and a bad side of this choice:

good: you have the percussion to use on nr. 4 or nr. 8 instead of always nr. 1
bad: each time 1p is written in the score you have to pull 2 knobs instead of 1

Discovery 15: 2 manual Suction Dominator harmonium-celesta

Without mentioning names, I know someone who bought a big dominator some years ago, When he got home,
he was very upset to discover that his Schiedmayer harmonium-celesta turned out to be a suction instrument..

He told me that he thinks Schiedmayer made it for a special occasion and that they were never build in large amount..

Discovery 16:

Today I received a new catalogue dating 1928..


First I would like to point out that this instrument is never called a dominator, but it looks very alike.

The catalogue mentiones 4 models:

-155 P.C. Normal (5 spiele)
-155 P.C. Doppelexpres​sion(5 spiele)
-155 P.C. Erweitert Normal (6 1/2 spiele)
-155 P.C. Erweitert Doppelexpres​sion(6 1/2 spiele)

So,..

-All models have 3 heel levers (unlike the picture on the title page..) These 3 heel levers have the same function as the dominator/Scheola series: prol.ausl. / GJ / Celesta ped.
-All models have knee levers but on 2 models these only control the fortes...the 2 other instruments do have doppelexpression.

There are all pressure harmoniums (teilung e-f), but not kunstharmoniums.
Schiedmayer was still building the "real" dominators as well. Here's one built in 1929::



Thanks to Frans van der Grijn I now know that these Orchester-harmoniums were already produced since 1911! They seem to be as old as the dominator / scheola series.
Although most registers on these Orchester-harmoniums have the same name there are some differences (and similarities):

similarities:
-they have the same "look": 3 heel levers, 2 knee levers, celesta, prolongements etc.
-they have perkussion, this time spelled with a "k" instead of "c"

differences:

-no metaphones nor forte expressifs, they only have the regular fortes
-other register names

overview of the 6 1/2 spiele:

left:

1p Perkussion 8'
1 Englisch Horn 8'
Piano 8' (= sourdine!! not available/needed on the doppelexpressionmodel)
2 Bourdon 16'
3 Clairon 4'
4 Cello 8'
5 Undamaris 8' (only available on the 6 1/2 spiele)
6 Fagott 16' (= 6 violon 16'?)
Sb. Subbass 16' (C-h)
Vb. Violonbass 16' (C-h)


right:

1p Perkussion 8'
1 Flöte 8'
Piano 8' (= sourdine!! not available/needed on the doppelexpressionmodel)
2 Klarinette 8'
3 Fifre 4'
4 Oboe 8'
5 Aeolsharfe 8' (only available on the 6 1/2 spiele)
6 Schalmei 16' (= 5 musette 16'?)

These instruments don't have 2' and 32' either. They were clearly used for cinema's (Kino) etc.
6 1/2 spiele is not that much compared to the 10 spiele of the model Wagner/Palestrina and the 10 1/2 spiele of the model Strauss.

Unfortunately no prices are mentioned in the catalogue.

Many thanks to forummember Frans van der Grijn from harmoniumnet.nl and forummember HarpeEolienne for the documents!

Discovery 17: Registrations were printed on the Scheola rolls!



If Mustel and Aeolian did the same is a mystery to me as nobody seems to be posting pictures of those rolls. I'm glad I found a reason to post this marvelous picture,
it's quite "dominating" although it's not a dominator but a scheola Smile


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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Sam 18 Aoû 2012 - 5:11

Hello Nils,

Congratulations for your research ! I got really amazed with your profound interest trying to cover all the details of this class of instrument.
I am happy when I see young people like you giving their blood and carrying ahead the promotion of the harmonium, and in your case, harmonium-célesta, even more rare.
Finally it is so good to see a new message breaking the silence here in this forum. I am convinced that all of us feel much better if we get up in the morning with a new message posted here everyday.
Cumpliments,
Dib

Bonjour Nils,

Félicitations pour vos recherches! Je me suis vraiment étonné par votre profond intérêt en essayant de couvrir tous les détails de cette catégorie d'instruments.
Je suis heureux quand je vois des jeunes comme vous donnant leur sang et portant en avant la promotion de l'harmonium, et dans votre cas, harmonium-célesta, encore plus rare.
Enfin, il est si bon de voir un nouveau message à briser le silence ici, dans ce forum. Je suis convaincu que chacun d'entre nous se sentent beaucoup mieux si nous nous levons le matin avec un nouveau message posté ici tous les jours.
Cumpliments,
Dib
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Sam 18 Aoû 2012 - 9:42

Thanks Dib, I'm doing my best.

If you reread the post you will see I have added some new discoveries Smile
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Dim 19 Aoû 2012 - 21:13

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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Dim 23 Sep 2012 - 20:40

Some time ago I discovered the most beautiful harmonium piece I have ever heard. It's a later work by Karg-Elert called "Fernsicht vor dem Regen".
I have made a recording of the piece. If you listen very well you can even recognize the song "blackbird" by the beatles Smile

as always comments are welcome. Enjoy!


registration:

0:00 Méta 5 - E - 8
0:59 Méta 5 - E - 6
1:15 Méta 5 - E - 8
1:25 Méta 5 - E - 7
1:27 Méta 5 3 - E - 7
1:58 Méta 5 3 - E - 4 7
2:23 Méta 5 3 - E - 3 7
2:34 Méta 5 4 3 - E - 3 7
2:44 Prol. Méta 5 4 3 - E - 3 6 7

Next to the prolongement 2 keys (D-A) are pressed down by clothespins during the piece.
The first one (A) at 0:54
The second (D) at 1:10


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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Lun 24 Sep 2012 - 8:48

Nils Van der Plancken a écrit:
Some time ago I discovered the most beautiful harmonium piece I have ever heard. It's a later work by Karg-Elert called "Fernsicht vor dem Regen".
I have made a recording of the piece. If you listen very well you can even recognize the song "blackbird" by the beatles Smile

as always comments are welcome. Enjoy!



This is Opus 102 Nr. 10 Fernsicht vor dem Regen [in D]
source:
Sonja Gerlach: Sigfrid Karg-Elert Verzeichnis sämmtliche Werke, 1984, Frankfurt, Zimmerman

Original Score: Peters, Leipzig, 9901 c 1914

The score was also printed in 'Harmonium Album B9 (Gerlach, page 140)


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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Lun 24 Sep 2012 - 10:51

Thanks you for your kind words Frans Smile hehe

This is indeed one of the pieces of the 12 Impressionen op. 102.
Another famous piece from this cycle is "Vorüber", which I will probably record in a not too distant future.

He makes a lot of use of unconventional "prolongement-notes" in this work. It's a shame no company ever invented
a system to keep selective notes pressed down. Some instruments do have additional prolongement-area's but
they can't be used either for these passages. You should be able to keep notes pressed down but play the notes
surrounding these notes at all times.

(Half) Clothespins are very handy to use as they can be slide under the keys very easily.
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Lun 24 Sep 2012 - 12:05

Nils Van der Plancken a écrit:
Thanks you for your kind words Frans Smile hehe

This is indeed one of the pieces of the 12 Impressionen op. 102.
Another famous piece from this cycle is "Vorüber", which I will probably record in a not too distant future.

He makes a lot of use of unconventional "prolongement-notes" in this work. It's a shame no company ever invented
a system to keep selective notes pressed down. Some instruments do have additional prolongement-area's but
they can't be used either for these passages. You should be able to keep notes pressed down but play the notes
surrounding these notes at all times.

(Half) Clothespins are very handy to use as they can be slide under the keys very easily.


Le Maître Sigfrid uses small triangular pieces of wood. In Belgium they are called "keggen". The word was on loan from the Dutch of course.

Le Maître Sigfrid utilise de petits morceaux triangulaires en bois. En Belgique, ils sont appelés « keggen ». Le mot a été prêté par le néerlandais bien sûr.
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Sam 13 Oct 2012 - 23:15

Bonjour a tout le monde,

j'ai fait 2 nouvelles enregistrations.
Cette fois j'ai choisi la dernière pièce d'Intarsien op. 76 "Vor dem Bildnis Griegs" et la première pièce des Miniaturen op. 9 "Salve Regina".
J'ai eu la chance d'utiliser un très bon camera. Je vous conseille de choisir l'option "watch on youtube" parce que là, cettes vidéos sont disponible en HD 1080p.





merci,
Nils
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Lun 5 Nov 2012 - 11:35

Dear forum members,

I have recorded some new pieces written or transcribed by Karg-Elert. Many of this pieces (almost all of them) were never recorded before.
I hope you will enjoy them as much as I did!

The following pieces are to be found below:

1. S. Karg-Elert: Improvisation über "Näher, mein Gott, zu dir! (theme from Titanic)
2. S. Karg-Elert: Graduale, WoO 7a
3. S. Karg-Elert: Funerale (Dem Andenken August Reinhards geweiht)
4. S. Karg-Elert / C. Schumann: Trauermarsch (Aus der Ersten suite)
5. S. Karg-Elert / M. Laurischkus: Aus Masuren (Musette aus den "Sechs Skizzen")
6. S. Karg-Elert / F. Poenitz: Lied ohne Worte, op. 41 (Sommertag aus der Hardanger-Suite)
7. S. Karg-Elert / A. Jensen: Schlichte Weise (Wenn ich ein Vöglein wär)
8. S. Karg-Elert / R. Schumann: Intermezzo (Bunte Blätter Nr. 5)
9. S. Karg-Elert / L. Hasler: Allein Gott in der Höh sei Ehr
10. S. Karg-Elert / Ch. Gluck: Reigen seliger Geister (Aus der Oper "Orpheus")

You can visit youtube for 1080p HD.

with kind regards,

Nils


1. S. Karg-Elert: Improvisation über "Näher, mein Gott, zu dir! (theme from Titanic)



2. S. Karg-Elert: Graduale, WoO 7a



3. S. Karg-Elert: Funerale (Dem Andenken August Reinhards geweiht)



4. S. Karg-Elert / C. Schumann: Trauermarsch (Aus der Ersten suite)



5. S. Karg-Elert / M. Laurischkus: Aus Masuren (Musette aus den "Sechs Skizzen")



6. S. Karg-Elert / F. Poenitz: Lied ohne Worte, op. 41 (Sommertag aus der Hardanger-Suite)



7. S. Karg-Elert / A. Jensen: Schlichte Weise (Wenn ich ein Vöglein wär)



8. S. Karg-Elert / R. Schumann: Intermezzo (Bunte Blätter Nr. 5)



9. S. Karg-Elert / L. Hasler: Allein Gott in der Höh sei Ehr



10. S. Karg-Elert / Ch. Gluck: Reigen seliger Geister (Aus der Oper "Orpheus")
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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Mer 7 Nov 2012 - 20:48

After many months of searching I have finally found a picture of an identical instrument but with the original uppercase Smile

I hope I will receive some additional pictures soon, this could be very helpful restoring my instrument.


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MessageSujet: Re: Schiedmayer Dominator   Mer 7 Nov 2012 - 21:36

Wow, Nils

Congratulations! cheers
This is a very nice discovery.
Did you also find the contact of the owner for additional infos and photos?

Bonjour Nils

Félicitations! cheers
C'est une très belle découverte.
Avez-vous également trouver les coordonnées du propriétaire pour infos supplémentaires et des photos?
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